Jeremie
Dec 5 2005, 10:50 PM
Does anyone knows the top speed of the Ferrari FXX
Evoluta
Dec 5 2005, 11:31 PM
QUOTE(Jeremie @ Dec 5 2005, 09:50 PM)
Does anyone knows the top speed of the Ferrari FXX
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Jeremie,
The FXX cars are like prototypes - they are always under development, and always have different settings. As such they will have different top speeds...
However, the FXX has improved aerodynamics and about 800 bhp, compared to the Enzo which has 660 bhp (349 km/h).
I suppose that one could calculate a theoretical top speed based on the power output and friction.
igorpetkovski
Dec 6 2005, 09:47 PM
I think but not 100% sure 400 km/h like Bugatti with 1001 Hp.
Gladius
Dec 12 2005, 12:18 AM
only with the top speed key, in which case it does "only" 250mph..
Ferrer
Dec 12 2005, 12:27 AM
QUOTE(Gladius @ Dec 12 2005, 12:18 AM)
only with the top speed key, in which case it does "only" 250mph..
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253mph to be exact, and the Veyron is believed to be able to reach 261mph...
Don't get me wrong I hate this car, it's the sort of thing Ettore Bugatti would have never built, but I have to admit that as an engineering achievement it is amazing.
lowlife
Dec 12 2005, 01:21 AM
QUOTE(Ferrer @ Dec 12 2005, 12:27 AM)
253mph to be exact, and the Veyron is believed to be able to reach 261mph...
Don't get me wrong I hate this car, it's the sort of thing Ettore Bugatti would have never built, but I have to admit that as an engineering achievement it is amazing.
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but is it.
i watched topgear tonight, and i felt it got all a bit ridiculous. or is this a bit of italian jelousy?
1001bhp is not a previously unreached figure. considering the engine has 16 cylinders and 4 turbo chargers, i think you could rightfully (reletive) expect more. without the turbos, does it even manage 100bhp per litre?
it's not especially light, and it's by no means a rocket around the track. infact i'd bet my house the zonda f and ezon are faster.
throwing money at a problem like that can always get you the results you want. but maybe it takes more money still to get to 261mph in the most perfectly engineered way.
on a personal note, like every luxury VW this car is the ott, look at me attraction for property developers and footballers the world over.
Ferrer
Dec 12 2005, 01:27 AM
QUOTE(lowlife @ Dec 12 2005, 01:21 AM)
but is it.
i watched topgear tonight, and i felt it got all a bit ridiculous. or is this a bit of italian jelousy?
1001bhp is not a previously unreached figure. considering the engine has 16 cylinders and 4 turbo chargers, i think you could rightfully (reletive) expect more. without the turbos, does it even manage 100bhp per litre?
it's not especially light, and it's by no means a rocket around the track. infact i'd bet my house the zonda f and ezon are faster.
throwing money at a problem like that can always get you the results you want. but maybe it takes more money still to get to 261mph in the most perfectly engineered way.
on a personal note, like every luxury VW this car is the ott, look at me attraction for property developers and footballers the world over.
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I think that the fact that it works is the engineering achievement itself. However I cound't agree more with your last paragraph, really sums up the car.
HPE
Dec 12 2005, 04:33 AM
I gather one D. Beckham has just bought one, which ought to make it suitably naff.
On the power issue, I am led to believe that the 987bhp figure is not the full story. The engine itself produces (a raw) 3000bhp-odd. Plenty of which is spent on the 12 radiators. The 987bhp is 'at the wheels'. In any case, the 3000bhp figure would certainly go some way to explaining why it will dispatch 150-200mph in top faster than a 911 Turbo will do something well below that in second.
fredo
Dec 13 2005, 01:57 PM
boys go to rennteam.com and go to ferrari forum and theres a ferrari fxx testing video.
Ulmis
Dec 15 2005, 03:21 PM
QUOTE
However, the FXX has improved aerodynamics and about 800 bhp, compared to the Enzo which has 660 bhp (349 km/h).
Actually Enzo does approximately 365 km/h .
It was recorded with 366 in Gumball by the Police twice I think .
Cris
Dec 15 2005, 03:58 PM
FXX produces more downforce than stock Enzo. That means more drag.
That means, the FXX is not a car developed to reach a record top speed.
Each km/h over 300 is very expensive in terms of power and fuel consumption.
The Veyron is a production car that works.
FXX is not a production car, not a street car (not legal) and not a race car (nowhere to go!)... itīs just what the marketing dept. thinks and engineer should work on.
Regards.
Cris.-
Jeremie
Dec 15 2005, 10:40 PM
Check these list of some of the topspeed cars and some of the most expensive cars
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Ferrer
Dec 15 2005, 11:13 PM
teazenya
Dec 17 2005, 01:07 AM
QUOTE(Ferrer @ Dec 16 2005, 08:13 AM)
yep its true i have seen a fiat kicking some ass
Fiat kicking some assFiat beating some idot
HighwayMaster
Jan 15 2006, 07:18 PM
QUOTE(teazenya @ Dec 17 2005, 01:07 AM)
yep its true i have seen a fiat kicking some ass
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Nice the "stock" 126
FLyInG 2 YoUr SoUL
Jan 15 2006, 08:31 PM
The Palio advert has been used here in Italy as well...
A lot of biker complained about it, saying the advert promoted bad behaviour against them on the road, and the advert magically disappeared...
lowlife
Jan 15 2006, 10:02 PM
QUOTE(FLyInG 2 YoUr SoUL @ Jan 15 2006, 08:31 PM)
The Palio advert has been used here in Italy as well...
A lot of biker complained about it, saying the advert promoted bad behaviour against them on the road, and the advert magically disappeared...

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if proof where needed that the blame culture of the states is going to ruin all our lives...............................................
Greedie
Mar 13 2006, 02:27 PM
I found nice video of FXX, it's in French and i don't understand a thing they say, but the cars are fantastic in this video so i think it's worth to see:
FXX videoIt is the bolide F1 for rich people
ClearDay
Apr 20 2006, 10:20 AM
This from Bloomberg is worth a read:
Ferrari Secret Society Costs Its 29 Members $1.8 Million Each
April 20 (Bloomberg) -- Michael Fux paid $1.8 million plus tax to join the world's most select and secretive high-speed society.
There is no membership card. Instead, Fux, founder of U.S. mattress maker Sleep Innovations Inc., walks into the garage of his Miami home and awakens one of only 29 carbon-fiber Ferrari FXX sports cars the Italian automaker recently delivered to a coterie of ueberwealthy owners from Tennessee to Tokyo, known as the Ferrari Client Test Driver Club.
``There's absolutely nothing street-legal about the FXX,'' Fux hollers, his voice a whisper against the discharge of a 6,262 cubic centimeter V12 engine that kicks out more than 800 horsepower at 8,500 rpm -- practically the same performance numbers that empower the Formula 1 racers that Ferrari SpA in Maranello, Italy, constructs for Michael Schumacher.
The FXX is about as subtle as an erupting volcano, so potent that Fux says the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's Office of Air and Radiation monitors all FXX imports, slapping club members with a $27,500 fine should the car enter the country without a proper license.
``Once the FXX is legally in the U.S., it's up to state and local law enforcement to ensure the vehicle is driven only on a racetrack,'' says Dave Ryan, spokesman for the EPA's enforcement division.
As for who's doing the driving, ``we don't reveal names,'' says M. Toscan Bennett, public relations director of Ferrari North America Inc.
Club Members
For the 62-year-old Fux, the track is the only prudent place to exercise the FXX alongside fellow clubbers, who include U.S. automotive mega dealer Phil Bachman of Greeneville, Tennessee; Florida flea-market baron Preston Henn; United Auto Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer Roger Penske; and Lawrence Stroll, co- chairman of A&G Group Ltd. and former co-chairman of Tommy Hilfiger Corp.
And with speeds in excess of 240 miles (386 kilometers) per hour and a gearbox that executes shifts in less than 100 milliseconds, the language of the ancient Mongol Empire perhaps contains the only verb to express the action a novice experiences behind the FXX wheel: ``temul,'' the look in the eye of a horse that's racing where it wants to go, no matter what the rider wants.
``Even good guys look like they're sawing wood with their hands in the FXX,'' says Le Mans winner Leo Hindery Jr., managing partner in the New York-based buyout firm InterMedia Partners LLC. ``It's a display car for guys who want to spend 200 grand a year to drive around a track in demonstration events.''
Can't Order One
Bruce Clarke, a track official at the Homestead Miami Speedway, knows about the perils of demonstration. Thirty minutes before Fux and seven other FXX owners make their inaugural run, Clarke tells the group they can go as fast as they want and pass whomever they want.
``I sure hope they keep their heads on straight,'' he cautions. ``These cars are dangerous.''
The FXX isn't a prancing horse for Wall Street bonus babies to saddle up. Ferrari currently manufactures five retail models and the FXX isn't among them. ``You don't go into a Ferrari dealer and order an FXX,'' explains Fux, who owns a dozen Ferraris. ``Maranello contacted us after conducting a long and private vetting of customers.''
Client test-driver Henn reckons his membership car required divine intervention.
``Ferrari's North American operation called to see if I was interested in an FXX,'' says the 75-year-old Henn, who has raced at Le Mans and owns 20 Ferraris. ``My nomination was reviewed by Maranello and I was given to understand final approval came from the pope.''
Cold Callers
Ferrari engineer and production director Giuseppe Petrotta, says that more than 60 customers so far have cold-called the company for membership in the Client Test Driver Club since 2004, when his team began planning the project for vehicle delivery this year.
``The FXX gives us the opportunity to test-drive new Ferraris with our customers,'' Petrotta says while preparing Fux's red FXX for the track. ``We must limit the number of owners to 29 because including more would detract from the amount of service, assistance and hospitality we can provide.''
Petrotta says client confidentiality is paramount.
``FXX owners are made aware of many Ferrari technical secrets that our competition would like to be aware of,'' Petrotta explains. ``Telemetry data from the FXX is priceless, and giving customers access to the information is part of the program because it allows them inside the development process for our future cars.''
Five Mechanics
The FXX comes with a squad of five Ferrari factory mechanics and personalized driving tips and training from Schumacher. Standard equipment includes three gigantic metal trunks filled with specialized helmets, fireproof racing suits, red racing sneakers, a smorgasbord of purpose-built tools and a more than 300-page instruction manuscript housed in an FXX carbon-fiber binder.
Henn says collectors of Ferrari ephemera are willing to pay $10,000 for the codex. As for the car, ``I've already heard about offers of $4 million,'' Henn says.
Fux says the greatest joy of the FXX is handing its keys over to Jamie Camara and Ian Beltri, young race-car drivers less than half his age and looking for a break on the professional circuit. ``If I can find somebody to drive it better than me and showcase their talent for Ferrari, then that's the ultimate thrill,'' Fux says.
``My first car was a beat-up 1950 Ford,'' recalls Fux, whose current stable of 50 cars includes an Aston Martin Volante, a Formula 1 Ferrari, a Saleen S7, a Ford GT and two Lamborghini Murcielagos. His $1.4 million Bugatti Veyron is scheduled to arrive in June.
``I swapped the Ford for a 1949 Plymouth with rotted floors,'' Fux says. ``The FXX is a much better investment.''
`About Macho'
Classic-car specialist Malcolm Barber, CEO of the U.S. unit of Bonhams auction house in London, says the jury is still out on the FXX. ``Squillionaires want the FXX to pump their adrenalin and it will take a generation to see if the car does the same for their investment portfolios,'' Barber explains.
``The FXX is about macho and nothing else,'' says Hollywood film producer Mara Beth Sommers, who spends her weekends at the track racing an F430 Spider against men in the Ferrari Challenge Series.
Ferrari's Petrotta says any discussion of the FXX's free- market worth is premature.
``An owner has the right to sell his car, but unless we approve the sale, the new owner is not a member of the club,'' Petrotta says as the FXX fleet rumbles to life in the paddock. ``That means no assistance, no mechanics.''
The Pedigree
The partnership between the Ferrari unit of Fiat SpA and FXX owners runs through 2007. The two-year agreement stipulates that Ferrari will sanction seven FXX events a year: two each in North America, Europe and Japan and with an annual grand finale in Italy.
``It's one hell of a public relations program for Ferrari and we're paying for it,'' Henn says. ``Ferrari's people crank it up, warm it up and wipe it down after we race. The FXX is a car for someone who lives their life every day as if it's their last.''
FXX client manager and Ferrari mechanic Andrea Galletti expects each car will clock about 3,500 kilometers over the term of the contract. ``If owners want to drive the FXX on their own,'' Galletti adds, ``we will do everything we can to have a factory team of engineers and mechanics on hand.''
`Over the Top'
Slipping into the driver's seat of his yellow FXX, Bachman says he intends to permanently garage the Ferrari in Maranello in order to sustain its Italian provenance. ``Driving this at Homestead is great, but I want to maintain its European pedigree and keep it on European tracks,'' the 68-year-old car dealer says over the bawl of eight FXXs revving their engines. ``I sell Pontiacs to pay for Ferraris,'' Bachman shouts, ``and this one is over the top with power.''
In pole position, Fux gives a thumbs-up and blasts off around the 2.21-mile track. Nausea sets in after the fourth lap and he returns to the pit, his white beard matted with sweat, a top speed of 210 mph on the telemetry system and a mischievous smile on his face.
``I'm a little boy,'' Fux says, the words streaming from his cracked lips. ``Wild, just wild. One hundred and sixty miles per hour is slow in this car. There's someone out there doing 240,'' he continues between gulps of pink lemonade. ``The FXX is it, the best of all my cars. The only thing wrong with it is that I can't drive it on the street.''